Eclipse

Eclipse is the third book in The Twilight Saga and I just loved getting to reenter this world. Ahhhhh this book was just so good. I just absolutely fell in love with these characters and this great story. This book was just so easy to get lost in and I just didn’t want it to end. I will definitely be reading the next book in this series.

Just as good as I remember reading this when it came out!

Good book, good value

Needed this for my collection, great book

It took me a little minute to finish but I honestly really enjoyed this book. I really liked all the Jacob and Bella drama. Secretly I’m rooting for them even though I know she belongs to Edward but I’m glad she finally realized she loves him

I am in my 40s and have read this series multiple times since it came out. My reading preferences have grown Over the years my favorite right now is why choose and it's so hard not to think YOU CAN HAVE THEM BOTH! But I still think at times Bella is obnoxious. I have the audiobooks of the series, and I will say the only good narrator is the voice of Jacob. Bella and Edward's narrators make me cringe

Since Edward came back after having left Bella and Jacob to grow closer, Jacob is not giving up on the idea of a future with Bella. Edward knows better than to forbid their friendship, because it was his fault that Jacob needed be there to drag Bella from the depression that he caused by leaving her alone. Bella called Jacob her sun, because he was always warm and caring and wearing a smile just for her.Jacob is still Bella’s best friend, and with a strange vampire sneaking into her bedroom, Edward is willing to allow Bella to be with anyone who can protect her when he is away hunting. Jacob is a huge wolf, and just as large as a man, and more than capable of defending Bella from danger when Alice or someone isn’t available.There will come a time when vampire and werewolves must make a treaty, and that allows Jacob and Bella to be together even more, and he is fighting for her. She says she isn’t is love with Jacob, but he says she’s lying to herself. Is she lying to herself?I thought this was the most heartbreaking of the series of books, because this was more than drama, it was things that happened to almost everyone who falls in love in a triangle. In a couple, one person loves more than the other and loses the one they love to someone else. It hurts just as much to break the heart of someone you care deeply about. The love scenes were very believable, and it almost hurt to read them.I’m an action nerd and I would have liked more action sequences with more detail, but I guess this is a romance. ::sigh:: The romance parts were very well written… both of them.

Honestly I don’t know why the author insisted that in the writing and in interviews the author has had: that Bella does love Jacob. Jacob is so clearly manipulative and I honestly don’t think that they would be together if Jacob was just human and there was no Edward. He was too hot headed and immature and Bella was way too mature for him. I think Bella only fell in love with him because she was heartbroken over Edward and she was “settling” for Jacob. So essentially I think that she never really had her whole heart in it, there was more of just a matter of convenience (a warm body, quite literally lol, that was there to listen). Anyways the end kind of annoyed me how Bella was sooooo heartbroken over loving Jacob but not enough and then felling guilty that she didn’t pick him (which I mean really girl who wants pity love from you anyways). I mean SHE DIDN’T EVEN want to kiss him BOTH times (he basically manipulated her both times too). In general I think that they were just wrong for each other. I DID NOT get the feeling of “in another life” or “if there were no supernaturals” that they would be together. I feel like the only reason they got close was because of the supernatural element of their stories/lives. Well thanks for reading my rant of Jacob.

Stephenie Meyers wrote the series to be about the obsession of first love and targeted primarily at mid teen girls and the first two books of the series are weaker for it in my opinion. Bella is a blank slate character who doesn't begin to really fill out personality-wise really until this third book. In many ways she comes off as cold and callous in the first book because her mind is really only focused upon Edwards flawless face. It is not until the end of the book where she she is shown to be selfless in trying to protect her family. The same could be said in the second book except it remains to be all about Edward and a bit of Jacob where nothing else really matters and everyone else is secondary. It is in this third chapter of the series that we see her world expand more and we are given a bit more interaction with others not named Edward or Jacob. She shown to have fear a concern not just in passing but consistently for those around her. This I feel adds more deapth actually to the relationship between her and Edward. It is in this where we see the Love Story go beyond someone's flawless perfection or unreadable mind. We get to see the person instead of the blank slate. it is worth noting that when this book came out the series was really taking off and becoming a national craze. not only had the character of Bella growing older but so had the original readers. I think that is why the story is a bit more mature if still appropriate for the original core audience as it will remain throughout series for the most part. It may sound weird but it's very much like the shift that occurred in the Harry Potter series where it went from being aimed at a younger audience to growing up and becoming more mature as the audience and characters group. The promise of action and danger along with a mystery makes a story more compelling so that the romance is not the sole thing holding the story up. The love triangle that was commercialized to an extreme is shown not to be as in depth or prevalent in the story itself. it's there and there is angst but there's never really anything to it. If Edward and Bella is about the obsession of first love in Jacob and Bella is about the line between loving a friend too much to let go.For those on the fence of reading the book series I would say to do so simply to know what you're talkin about if it ever comes up in conversation. In truth it is not a bad story but it is one directed toward a certain audience and readers outside of the audience have to accept that.In the end I do think it comes down to the readers taste of what kind of character they want. Authors can either make the main character have a personality that is impactful and memorable or have one that is easier to slip into because there's nothing there but an outline for the reader to fill out themselves. I believe that those who dislike the series do so because they did not want a blank slate character but one that reached out to grab the reader's attention and pulled them along the story. perhaps this is why I enjoy the last two books more than the first two because the author has filled out the outline more so that Bella feels more like a complete character.This book contains no strong language or Gore. It is a fairly clean story with the romantics limited to kissing passionately.

The romance intensifies, becoming very poignant and bittersweet, in this third installment of The Twilight Saga, which I have read for the third time, because I simply can't get enough of it! In fact, I have embarked upon a third re-reading of the entire Saga.Edward has returned to Bella's life, so Jacob informs her that he can no longer be her friend...Initially, Edward forbids Bella from trying to go to La Push to visit Jacob so as to heal their friendship. He even 'bribes' Alice to 'kidnap' her, which ultimately doesn't work. Edward finally decides that trying to prevent Bella from seeing her friend will only make her suffer, as she cares deeply for Jacob. Just how deeply, however, she herself is not aware of....until very dramatic events ensue toward the last third of the book, and Bella has to admit, at last, that she's in love with Jacob, as well, although she does love Edward more.Conflict is slowly brewing in this novel, and not just because of the love triangle. It seems that someone is rapidly creating a small army of newborn vampires that have begun to ravage Seattle. The Cullens decide they must intervene, fearing that the Volturi will step in. They don't do so right away, however, as other, more ordinary human events, prevent them from leaving Forks unnoticed.This novel gives the reader more background on the two groups that have become open antagonists -- the Cullens and the Quileutes. I was fascinated by the stories of Rosalie's and Jasper's transformations into vampires, although the acts of violence in their individual stories did make me quite uncomfortable. These were, thankfully, glossed over in the movie version of the novel. The stories did serve to flesh out these two characters, though. (Besides, they finally came across the Cullens, and embraced a non-violent lifestyle, refraining from killing humans.) I wonder why Meyer didn't do the same for the other members of the Cullen family, but then, perhaps the book would have become too cumbersome.Equally fascinating were the Quileute legends, told by a roaring campfire, with Bella in attendance. Billy started the storytelling, which was then taken over by old Quil Ateara, grandfather of the younger Quil, one of the werewolves. The stories dealt with the origin of the Quileute tribe, of how they had spirit warriors that later on became werewolves. These warriors were always protectors of the tribe, and their mission continued when they became able to shapeshift into wolves.I was especially interested in, as well as saddened by, the story of "the third wife", which, ironically enough, would have later repercussions in the novel.The dialogues between Edward and Bella, as well as those between Jacob and Bella, are the most poignant I've yet come across in this series. Edward loves Bella so much that he refrains from hurting Jacob, so as not to hurt her. Although it's painful for him to realize just how much the werewolf means to his girlfriend, he endures the pain, even going as far as asking Bella if she is truly happy with choosing him over Jacob.Bella realizes, for the first time, that Jacob would have been perfect for her, had Edward not been in the picture. Meyer gives her readers a fleeting glimpse of what could have been. That brief scene is a very touching one, too.As the danger from the vampires in Seattle escalates, an unusual and uneasy alliance is formed between the two groups that had until then been total enemies. They trust each other rather grudgingly, but still, it's very gratifying to see them working together. As Bella herself states, at several points in the story, there's no need for the Cullens and the Quileutes to be at war with each other. And so it is that Meyer begins to cleverly set things up for the events of the last novel in the Saga -- Breaking Dawn. I love that she did this! It's beautiful to see this alliance unfolding, as well. And it's Bella who is the catalyst in this developing state of affairs.Although the pacing in this book was a bit slower than that of the two previous ones -- at least for the first third of it -- I enjoyed it immensely! It's just that Meyer is tremendously skilled at creating very real, very believable characters that the reader can come to love. This reader certainly did! The conflicts and entanglements these fictional people are involved in became my conflicts and entanglements, as well. I know that, as I read, I felt their feelings, thought their thoughts, and was swept right along with them in the plot's intensely romantic angst....The unfolding story of Edward, Bella, and Jacob -- The Twilight Saga -- is the romantic masterpiece of our time. It is also a dramatic tale involving complex existential themes that engage the intellect just as much as they enthrall the heart and mesmerize the soul.There will definitely be a fourth re-reading in my future! Stephenie Meyer has woven a permanent spell for me, one I have no desire to break....

I hade to read this book after reading the first two books in the series because I didn't want it to end and I wanted to know what was going to happen. I wouldn't say that Stephanie Meyer is the best writer but she really knows how to captivate you with the telling of her stories. I don't currently own this book but I hope to when it comes out in Paperback.Bella and Edward have been through a lot in the last two books so this books feels like it should be about them getting to be together and things going their way. Of course, they have to deal with Jacob, the werewolf best friend to Bella who is continually claiming his love for her.One of the things I love most about Bella is her inability to stay unharmed. She is the biggest clutz I have ever encountered in any story and it really does make things funny. Edward on the other hand is the most moral vampire you will ever come across because he wants love, marriage and intimate relations in that order. And you would think with all his concern and straight forward honesty, Charlie (Bella's dad) would just love him, but alas he can't get over the heartbreak in New Moon.I have to mention Jacob again because I really liked him and I guess I still do but in this book he really steps over the line. He pretty much forces a kiss on Bella and then gives her an ultimatium about his life which doesn't go over very well. He also forces Bella into an assumption about her feelings that doesn't really ring true to me. Yes, Bella loves Jacob because he is her best friend but somehow what Jacob wants her to feel doesn't see so plausible because no matter what he thinks she wants Edward and there is no stopping her.There are some really great mischeivious moments with Bella and Alice and we get to know the La Push Werewolves a little bettter which I like. I'm a total fan of Seth because he's such a sweetie and he paw high-fives Edward. We also learn a little more about the whole imprinting thing and while it is strange and in some cases really wierd it is also a nice touch and very similar to what the vampires experience when they find their mates.This has to be one of the best of the series. I loved Twilight but this one is right up there with it because I like Edward's overprotective nature and his bride to Alice. I also love that we get to know a little more about the Cullen Clan.This series is totally worth it. Go for it.

Eclipse is the third book in the Twilight Saga. That being said, I came to the Twilight 'party' a little late. I had heard about the original book, Twilight, and movie from my teenage niece but that was it. It was only after Encore channel aired the original movie did I really pay attention. I had heard, in passing about the Team Edward and Team Jacob stuff but this was something else. Wow! I decided that there had to be more to Twilight than what the movie was showing, so I went in search of the book my niece had told me about a year or so ago. It was so good that I read the book in less than 48 hours. Wow. Then it was on to the next episode of Twilight, New Moon. I can't say I was as thrilled by that one so much because I fall into the Team Edward camp now. But now, after reading all four books and seeing the New Moon movie, I can really say I enjoyed book #2.That brings me to Eclipse. Since I am squarely in the Team Edward camp, I get squeamish about the 'tent scene'. How Jacob tricks Bella into allowing him to kiss her as he goes off to kill vampires in the battle. But again, the book was not a disappointment and I was throughly satisfied with the book. I devoured it in 48 hours too. Too hard to put down. So I highly recommend this book. If you have read the first two books don't miss this one. If you haven't read the first two books... do so before reading this one. Eclipse is the continuation of the relationships built in Twilight and New Moon. Good reading on its own but it is best to know the back story.Eclipse is the next chapter in the thrilling ride of the Twilight series and it is very hard to put down once you start reading it. After you finish it, move on to Breaking Dawn. The fourth in the saga. Absolutely my favorite of the series. But that is for another review, so give Eclipse a try. It is well worth the money and the sleep you will lose trying to read it all.

Eclipse (e-klips) n: The love triangle in the Twlight Saga finally has a chance to blossom, but is buried in horrible back stories and ineffectual conflict.The potential of this book is in there, in all its trite love triangle glory, but it is buried in a quagmire of bad writing. The strange thing is the two halves of this book are so different it is like reading two books. The first book you read is blatantly horrible, and the second book you read is silly, but quite entertaining. If you tough it out and finish the first half, then with a good deal of luck, you will find the ending much better.*SPOILER WARNING*The book starts off much the same as the ending of New Moon, which is to say, not too bad situation wise, but the added scenes add nothing to the overall story. Then we are sharply, and unapologetically force fed the backstory of the werewolves. Perhaps Stephanie thought that one way to add some 'horror' to her series about horror story monsters was to horrify us with her terrible grasp of fantasy writing. It was one of the dumbest series of stories I have ever read. The starting premise was how 'spirit warriors' could 'scare away' an entire much larger enemy tribe by making the wind howl, sending 'dogs' to attack, and sending an 'infestation of bats.' I suppose trying to remove the bats who 'infested' their homes was just too much hassle, and they decided it wasn't worth it to stay. And surely, those dogs would have been difficult for their skilled warriors to manage. Oh, and scary too. Imagine, dogs barking at them! Howling winds! Too scary! I wanted to close my eyes and stop reading at the horror!The next equally blatant back story force fed to us was that of Rosalie. Remember Rosalie, the one who hated Bella, and then started liking her somewhat inexplicably? Her story screamed with unrealism and predictability.Next came Jasper, and this story grated my last nerve. It suspiciously looked like it had been a 'cut and paste' hack job from what had been originally intended as a flashback story from Jasper's perspective. It's only a theory, but it's well supported. No one ever remembers their history and recites it like they are reading a book. I mean, you don't say things like 'I won't do it,' Emily said, her face a immutable block of ice, when you are talking to someone, now do you?You wont find that line in the book, but this is typical of some sentences Jasper recites when describing his history. Kinda ruins the 'immersion' factor, now doesn't it?Well, Jasper's story, outside of being written totally inappropriately was actually very uninteresting. Pointless, and droning. A pathetic effort.While these backstories were being told, some werewolf-vampire tension was being built around the Jacob-Bella-Edward love triangle. This would be more effective if Jacob really had a chance, but Stephanie has always insisted on killing this possibility clearly and repeatedly in her books.The rest of the book of the book focuses on stringing previously discovered 'seemingly unrelated events' together through Bella's brilliant intuition. The problem was that the events seemed related from the start. Then, somehow, magically, the building werewolf-vampire tension was turned to werewolf-vampire teamwork verses a silly, totally ineffectual vampire threat.To accomplish this, the Jacob-Edward tension eases as Edward learns to trust Bella. When the 'great threat' is discovered by Bella (giving her some small purpose) the Jacob-Edward-Bella can be a united front against this great evil. Stephanie added quite a bit of spice to the mix here as Jacob takes a sleazy opportunity to antagonize his rival Edward, and then Edward takes his equal opportunity to antagonize his rival Jacob. Bella, who is constantly whining about not wanting her loved ones to die for her already now whines about how she is an instrument of torture to the two boys she loves. This whining might have had some merit if Stephanie didn't have Edward douse it with total acceptance.So, if you can get through the whining, there is some very intriguing story here.Throughout the book, Stephanie fills the minds of her readers with as many near sex scenes as possible to heighten the 'tension' while occasionally throwing in Edward's 'M' word requirement to add to the psychological drama. Bella's internal struggle (the only kind of struggle she is allowed to have) with marriage is something a bit weird, as is Edward's struggle with sex. Edward's morality is based around trying to keep from committing the one sin that he hasn't already broken. Bella's issue has more to do with the fact that she says 'ew' every time she thinks about marriage. I mean, she is brave enough to 'die' to be with the one she loves, but isn't bold enough to run away and get married. Bella is quite the paradox, and in too many ways to be a well loved protagonist.Well, guess what? The silly ineffectual vampires really were no threat at all, except in ve...

Eclipse, the third book in the Twilight series, had a redeeming quality to it that was necessary after having read New Moon, the second book. While I love both stories, the second book hurt and I needed reassurance that the characters were still the same ones I had fallen in love with in Twilight. Fortunately, I received that reassurance, and it has solidified my love for this series.One of the best things about this series, for me, is that the characters are always the primary story. This is true in Eclipse as much as the other two novels. There is an interesting plot to the third book, which ties in nicely with the second, but the focus is always on Bella and Edward and their relationship. The events that are going on always link back to how this will change things between Bella and Edward (if at all). Jacob Black still plays a prominent role in this one, though not as much as he had in the second, but with a completely different attitude. The triangle--Edward, Bella, and Jacob--is the central issue throughout the book. It can be frustrating at times.This book in particular also has quite a bit of back-story. You learn about Rosalie's and Jasper's pasts, as well as more stories of the tribe in La Push (I can't remember how to spell it). As a result Jasper has become one of my favorite characters, and now, having gone back and started to re-read the series in preparation for the release of the final book, I feel like I better understand the characters and their actions.Overall this is just a fantastically entertaining series. People should be wary of the "vampire" label that it has been given, because this is such a secondary aspect of the books. They are so much more than the traditional "vampire" novels. Meyer is a fairly religious person and brings some aspects of this to her books (most noticeably Edward's preoccupation with a soul) creating a depth to certain characters that otherwise may have been lacking. The books definitely suck you in to their world, in a way that many have compared to Harry Potter. In fact, most people consider this series to be the "life after Harry Potter" series, and it has exponentially risen in popularity since the release of Eclipse and the news of a movie in December.I'll end my review with this disclaimer: Edward Cullen will ruin boyfriends everywhere. :)

*originally written in August 2007 and MAY contain spoilers*I finished reading Eclipse by Stephenie Meyer about twenty minutes ago. I've been reading it all day. It's the kind of book where you only put it down if you have to, and even if it means you only got 4 hours of sleep that night, you are waking up early to continue reading it.I'd read that a lot of readers were disappointed and even angry at what happened in the book. The love triangle, of course. But I don't understand, don't they see beyond that? The struggle, the anguish, life? Life isn't about soulmates and love is complicated. They hated that Bella loved Jacob too and was torn between him and Edward, but I don't understand that either. Bella will always choose Edward, it is inevitable. She loved him first and she'll love him last. If she had loved Jacob first...but she didn't. For the past three books she has loved Edward more, he was her life. It would be series suicide to change that course.But didn't they feel any remorse for Jacob? You knew he loved Bella but you also knew that it would never be anything more than what might have been. Jacob is better for Bella. Her future would be better with him. The way Stephenie Meyer describes what these vampires are like....their entire bodies are as hard as rock and cold as ice. I can't picture Bella like this. No, I don't want her to become a vampire. I want her to be with Edward, I do...but I wish there was a way for Edward to become human again.I posed this question to some readers, if both choices were possible, would you rather Bella become a vampire or Edward become human again? Can you believe that they all said vampire? It's like...they just see the surface, or maybe I read too deep. They want Bella to give up her humanity, and they don't want her to love Jacob. Maybe it's cause they are young, I can tell that they were cause of their grammar and spelling. lol. Maybe it's because I'm older, not necessarily in age, but in wisdom, that I have this view. Love triangles are real and they hurt, because it's supposed to hurt someone or everyone. Not everyone can win in a love triangle, usually no one does. What would the victory be if your choice caused someone else pain? No, love triangles have sharp corners and they pierce.But...I've never had a book affect me the way this one did. When I read a book that I'm really into, I associate with the heroine. I feel her anguish, her joy, her anger, and her sadness. Sometimes so much that it might make tears gather in my eyes. But this book...Bella, Edward, and Jacob....I felt them all. By the end of the book I was bawling, and I'm still affected. But somehow at the end, all the pain I feel is for Jacob. I grieve for him. Bella and Edward have it all figured out, they are closed off. But Jacob...I do believe he loved her from the start. And most of all, I'm extremely uncertain about what is going to happen in Breaking Dawn. With New Moon and Eclipse....we had an idea. But Breaking Dawn, there isn't even a blurb written for it yet. Why, I don't even know if Stephenie Meyer has started writing it yet, last I checked it was still in outline stage. It won't be out until fall of next year...that is a long time. More than a year. Will I even care by then? Of course I will. I'm affected now and I have to know how it ends. And most of all, I want Jacob to have a happy ending, but without Edward losing his.But I'm still amazed how this book affected me, how I still want to cry for Jacob even though I'm done reading it. All authors dream of their readers getting moved like this. Because it means that they got in your heart somehow and that it was no longer reading as a hobby or as pleasure, but an addiction. I have to know how the story ends. And even if it ends in a way I don't like or don't expect, that doesn't matter, because the story will still be over. No more.And I imagine this sounds pathetic if you've never felt this way about a book before and you must think that I'm a loser weirdo. But I wish I could just share with you a little bit of what I felt, then maybe you would understand. You probably could even relate. I just know that this book was good.And for the record, at times I hate Bella's character. Her selfishness, lack of confidence, and her clingyness. BUT, as much as we dislike her, she's real. It may seem over the top to you, but there are teenage girls out there who are JUST like this, and older women too. Sometimes I dislike Edward too, just because he doesn't seem real. It wasn't until Eclipse that he started ACTING like a boyfriend. There are quirks about each character that rub me the wrong way, but overall, I won't stop reading the series because of that. I HAVE to know how it ends. lol.

I adored both Twilight and New Moon (gave them both 5 star ratings) and was happily anticipating loving Eclipse as much as I did the first 2 in this series. Unfortunately, the bad things really overshadowed the good for me in this installment.I think Stephenie Meyer has an amazingly readable writing style; she's definitely one of 3 writers that I budget time to read their latest books in one sitting (Rowling, Charlaine Harris and Meyer). Eclipse was no exception in terms of being a page-turner. This novel really showcases Meyer's great sense of humor as well. Obviously from the amount of time and emotional energy I've invested into the series over the last couple of years, I care very intensely for her characters, and I think having your readers care so much for the characters should be a real tribute to any writer.I was very pleased that Edward and Bella finally confronted the issue of their sexual relationship. It was tastefully depicted in my judgment, and it was long overdue. I also think it makes perfect sense for Bella to realize that having human sexual experience before sacrificing her humanity is worth exploring.While I agree with so many other reviewers that the action plot in this book was only ho-hum at best, I did cheer that Bella (and we readers) at long last got to see Edward the Vampire in action. Now she has a better idea what she'll become, and he understands that she doesn't think him a monster for having witnessed him being a full-fledged vampire.I didn't like the concept of imprinting (which is limited to the werewolves). It eliminates free will entirely, which I found very unsettling. I also found the similarities between imprinting and Bella's relationship with Edward to be more than a bit disturbing (more on that below).The Cullens and the Wolves are no closer to understanding the core of humanity that resides in each of them. Jacob acknowledges that Edward loves Bella, but he still doesn't understand their love at all and hasn't made any attempt to understand the Cullens generally. Same, of course, holds true for the Cullens not being keen on the wolves at all. I really thought this would have to be the central theme, but I would have expected more progress in Eclipse.Now for the Ugly .....I'm shocked and appalled that Ms. Meyer could believe that many of us who disliked or were on the fence about Jacob in previous books would suddenly convert to pro-Jacob fans after reading Eclipse. I'm truly shocked.After her book-signing tour for Eclipse, Meyer updated her website with some FAQs about Eclipse, and she has this to say about Jacob: "Those who are upset by some of his tactics should consider his youth and the fact that he is, after all, right. Bella is in love with him."I thought Jacob was absolutely horrid as a person for the entirety of the novel, and it went beyond simple immaturity. Bella defends Edward (and her love of Edward) to Jacob at one point, emphasizing that Edward is decent. And Edward is decent. And good to the core.Jacob, however, is not. He is so not decent. I truly despised him by the end of Eclipse and quite honestly, I wish he would just never return from his sojourn in the forest.I've read enough reviews and talked to enough other readers to know that I'm not alone in being extremely upset and bothered by the Forced Kiss. No decent man would force himself on a woman, no matter what. His inexperience and immaturity don't excuse it. His goal of forcing Bella to acknowledge the connection between them is not sufficient reason for him to have done that. His apology might have ameliorated the wrong, if he had followed through and stopped trying to force or trick Bella into intimacy with him. I think the Forced Kiss sends a horrible message to Meyer's younger fans too. There are no repercussions from his forcing himself on her. Even Bella's father good-naturedly congratulates Jacob for having kissed Bella against her will! Yes, really.The second later kiss (the one where he threatens to commit suicide since Bella doesn't care about him, provoking her to ask him to kiss her, henceforth the "Trickery Kiss") also proves unequivocally that Jacob is neither decent, nor a man. He's just a bitter, conniving, dishonorable and immature little boy who will apparently stop at nothing to try and get what he wants. I don't believe for one moment that Jacob is motivated solely by the lofty aspiration to save Bella from a fate worse than death (being turned into a vampire). Jacob wants what will make Jacob happy, and he makes absolutely no attempt to genuinely understand Bella's perspective.Meyer clearly wants readers to feel Jacob's "pain," but honestly, he's 16 years old (which, remember, apparently gives him license to be a total jerk). But, if he's just an average immature 16 year old kid, then he'll just get over Bella and move on, right? I don't fundamentally understand why Jacob's broken heart is supposed to tug at my heart-strings. At the end of Eclipse, it is late June ...